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If the RRRSDA are encouraging union members to resign from the SDA then who will represent Coles employees in their fight to establish a new EBA ? With reduced membership the union will have no bargaining power at all as the company will walk away and do as they wish ! Who are you ????
ReplyDeleteThe SDA has more members than any other Union in Australia. They have more money in the bank than any other union in Australia. With all that behind them they don't have any ability to stop the erosion of our conditions or reinstate the conditions they have given away in the past. Whether we maintain our membership or not we'll still be controlled by their agreement. I do not see the point of continuing to pay union fees to an organisation which goes towards them assisting employers giving away our conditions.
ReplyDeleteI am sure that you and I could go to the coles negotiators and be screwed by them. We employ the SDA to look after our interests to continue membership and the paying of fees only goes to encourage them.
They think and treat us like mushrooms. How else then by the removal of our support will they ever get the message to do the job we pay them to do? Also, remember under the new legislation we can nominate anybody to represent us in the bargaining period - a point the SDA fail to make its members aware of.
Why don't we show our displeasure with them? If people want to be covered and assisted by unions there are many other unions who are not in the pockets of the employers such as, CFMEU, MUA,Electrica Union, Meatworkers Union, who have all displayed their ability to keep their conditions and in fact, improve on them. By joining another union they can still assist you in relation to wrongful dismissals, workcare matters and legal advice as they all employ highly qualified lawyers.
It is nearly impossible to change the leadership of our union, SDA, because of their propaganda machine and their untold wealth so remaining a member only goes to encourage them. Reject the current agreement and demand that they go back to the negotiating table and return some of our conditions. If they can't we would ask them to step aside and let a more capable union represent us.
Have you actually stopped to consider what the agreement would be like if the SDA had not been involved in the negotiations?
ReplyDeleteVery easy to critisise and promote an obviously biased agenda rather than promote healthy discussion. Your comments and news bulletin are highly inflammatory and with very little basis.
I question the groups motives. Attempting to destabilise the union and the agreement can not be in the best interests of Coles employees. Who will step in and fight for the employees if the union is abandoned?
If every member were to leave the SDA where will they end up? Where will the collective bargaining power be when every former member is now left to thier own devices to negotiate a better agreement?
The SDA are weak and compromised. Woolies meat workers recently got shafted due to the secret negotiation between the SDA and the company. It's time for a change. There are plenty of other competent unions that can represent workers.
ReplyDeleteAs a member, I'm resigning from this Union.. I had no clue that the head of SDA was using my money to fight against gay marriage! I'm not gay but a youth who doesn't live in the 50s. What a joke! how many members under 20 don't even know about that and would find that revolting! Everybody should know that SDA is campaigning against gay marriage which is called DISCRIMINATION before signing a SDA card!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm out of here
the SDA are not using members money to fight against gay people and other stuff, they are legally not allowed to use members money for that stuff. the money is coming from the rental of the heaps of buildings the SDA owns and they also have sponsors.
ReplyDeleteTeam Mates - we should all be spreading the word of this site and the address as far as wide as possible so as to enable intelligent people not the welded on sda lackies the opportunity to make a proper decision.
ReplyDeleteWe want our conditions back!
Anybody that reads and believes any of the anonymous dribble written here must have rocks in their heads,this web site makes me believe it is industry driven to unstablize the sda union.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with the above comment. If this 'RRR SDA' group is so sure they can do a better job than the SDA then they should get themselves out there in stores and show people their 'talents'. Don't try unstabalize a true organisation, make your own.
ReplyDeleteTo the two previous comments: I can understand why you'd feel this way but I know for a fact that this website is not 'industry driven'.
ReplyDeleteThe SDA does not need to be destabilised, they merely need to start doing what we pay them for - protect workers. All they do now is take our cash and pretend to look after us when they are clearly in bed with the employer groups.
Time for a fair dinkum union. One that isn't afraid of strike action. One that will not erode our wages and conditions by colluding with our bosses.
Join the AMIEU instead. As a woolworths butcher I've been with them for decades. Got a lot of time for them.
ReplyDeleteThe site was created just prior to the last election for the State Secretary's position in Victoria. We, the founders, who work under SDA agreements in supermarkets have stated on numerous occasions that we do not wish to take over the running of the SDA. Our stated aims are:
ReplyDelete1. to supply the members with an avenue to voice their concerns.
2. to encourage the current leadership to do their job and improve our conditions
3. to put pressure on all state secretaries and Joe De Bryen to undo the harm they have already done, the greatest of which is, the loss of wage rates, penalty rates, compulsory hours (24hours per day, 7 days per week) no choice.
The members of our group are self - funded which limits our ability to inform the membership. Both the company and the SDA have been censoring information.
The companies would never allow anybody associated with our group to meet and discuss issues with the workforce because their arrangement with the SDA is to supply with membership money in return for agreements that favour the company, provides them with a compliant workforce and both the company and the SDA will stoop to any level to ensure that an outside group could not interfere with the arrangement.
We have, as a group, sent out hundreds of newsletters to Coles stores in all states and territories. Very few get passed the company and the union delegates scrutiny and they are being confiscated by the hundreds.
We are about to put a post on our site detailing an example of SDA representation at store level. The information was supplied to us sometime ago but we are reluctant to name people but the structure in this particular store can never be seen as worker representative.
To the people who want to defend the SDA you are most welcome to make your comments on our site but we feel any attempt to justify what the SDA has done over the years is a fruitless exercise.
In the past we wrote to the National Union of Workers seeking a dialogue to discuss giving shopworkers the opportunity to join with a stronger, more active union and an organisation which actually refers to themselves as a union. We were not aware at that time that there was a relationship between the two unions. They come under the category under right wing (a passive movement that appeases employers).
Our call for a NO Vote and a suggestion that people resign from the SDA is one of desperation.
We have suggested that should those SDA members wish to be assisted in their workplaces then they should join more competent unions. We refrained from making any recommendations to which one but for you to decide yourselves.
Unfortunately something needs to be done to give them a wake up call.